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Post by Peter on Nov 2, 2011 8:42:20 GMT -7
READ THE WIKI !!!
A lot of the issues will be covered there, plus as new ones come up I'm trying to add them to the relevant wiki page (i.e. the Farmer Wiki page now has the crash game if no grass bug listed..)
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Post by CoconutCurry on Nov 2, 2011 11:35:54 GMT -7
The thing about that is unless you already know what the problem is, you likely won't be able to find it on the wiki... and if you already know what the problem is, you likely already know the solution.
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Post by JMTyler on Nov 2, 2011 17:47:34 GMT -7
Maybe we should officially get a bug tracker going
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Post by CoconutCurry on Nov 3, 2011 8:13:54 GMT -7
Any ideas on how to do that?
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Post by JMTyler on Nov 3, 2011 9:00:27 GMT -7
Well... There are a lot of bugtrackers that are great, and also cost money. I don't think we want to go that route. There are a lot of free bugtrackers, but a lot of them are terrible. My favourite free bugtracker which I think is pretty decently in the middle is called Mantis. I have Mantis running on my server at home, but 1. I can't promise it'll be up 100% of the time. It's online pretty well 24/7, but seeing as it's my crappy personal home server, I can't make any guarantees. 2. I do also have an off-site server which will be up 100% of the time, but in either of these cases, they are under my personal domain name that has nothing to do with MineColony. I'm not sure that's ideal. I guess MineColony's main site is running on Google Sites, so we can't really install Mantis on it. I suppose our best solution so far is my personal server, and just toss a new tab onto the main site that links to it. If you're all fine with it possibly being a bit flaky, and no one has a better idea, I could setup a new project on Mantis for MineColony and see how it goes. Edit: And of course, it's up to the devs if they want to actually use it for themselves or not. I'm just thinking, at very least, it would be useful to have it as a central repository of all known bugs.
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Post by CoconutCurry on Nov 3, 2011 15:21:20 GMT -7
There are a lot of them on the wiki, as well as on the forums. Why would having this program be any better than say, having a thread on the forum, or a specific page on the wiki?
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Post by JMTyler on Nov 3, 2011 20:41:15 GMT -7
Forums and wikis were designed for a different purpose, and while they can get by as places to post about bugs, they're not very good at managing bugs. On forums and wikis, you can post a description of the bug and that's about it. It's hard to keep the status of the bug up-to-date everywhere it's been posted (as there are so many re-posts) and the search is usually not as great as it could be.
With a bugtracker, there are many other types of fields you could fill out, such as what version it was found in and what version it was fixed in, not to mention whether it's been fixed yet at all. You can post comments on the bugs which are easier to keep on track (many times on the forums people post new bugs within the thread of another bug, which feels like a much less intuitive thing to do in a bugtracker if you're posting it as a comment on another bug). You can also specify that one bug is related to another, or the duplicate of another, which makes it easier to manage when people keep re-posting duplicates. Bugtrackers also tend to have fairly powerful filter capabilities, so if you want to list all bugs that were found in Version X, not a problem.
TL;DR - Forums and wikis are capable of communicating that a bug exists, but bugtrackers basically make the process more organized and maintainable.
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Post by CoconutCurry on Nov 4, 2011 9:04:33 GMT -7
Gotcha. That's exactly the kind of thing I was wanting to know.
The question then is, are the devs interested? If they're not going to check in and see what bugs have been reported, then it does no good.
It also doesn't do any good if people aren't going to report bugs there. Most people don't search the forums (or even look at the board they're posting in at all, it seems) so the chances of random joe schmoe finding a link to it are slim. How are you going to get people (aside from our like 5 regular forum goers) to post their bugs?
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